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/> The way Universalist use “all” seems to be their main argument. "But what it really says is
IN CHRIST...ALL A-L-L ALL shall be made ALIVE! Then each of the ALL in his own order" (from one of their
web pages, "CAN THIS BE TRUE?"). They ask questions like: God will have all to be saved [1
Timothy 2:4]; can His will be thwarted? Jesus came to save all [John 12:47]; will He
succeed? Jesus is the savior of the world (1 John 4:14); why don't you believe it? And
many more like these. Their thinking seems to be that Christ came to save ALL; and if
He does not do it in this lifetime, then He must save all who are not saved in this lifetime
after the resurrection. This would be great if it was true, but nothing is said about anyone
being saved after his or her death. They know that most do not believe in Christ in this
lifetime, therefore, they MUST make ALL believe at some time after death. What will
happen after death? Christ says "For the hour comes, in which ALL that are in the tombs
shall hear his voice, and come forth: they that have done good, unto the resurrection of
LIFE; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of JUDGMENT" [John 5:28-
29]. There is nothing said about anyone being saved after death. The lost are raised to
judgment, not to eternal life. "NOW is the acceptable time: behold, NOW is the day of
salvation" [2 Corinthians 6:2]. God loves ALL, and Christ died for ALL, but ALL will
not come to Him. He made a person where he or she could choose to or choose not to.
Universalist teaching is that God will show His love to ALL in a way that ALL, even
Satan, will love Him. To so overpower the freewill of a person is the same as making
them love Him when they could not help it. It would be the same thing as taking their
freewill away. This "attitude adjustments" must be strong enough to overpower the most
evil; therefore, they are made to believe even against their will. They make up both this
"attitude adjustments" and the place where it takes place because they must have them if
ALL are to be saved. They are not in the Bible.
UNIVERSALIST TEACHING OF ALL WILL BE SAVED makes much of the
Bible be foolishness, vain babbling, meaningless, or just an out right lie. It makes:
1. Satan's greatest lie would be no lie, but is the truth. If all will be saved, no one
will die. Satan told the truth; but when God said they would die, He is the one
who told the greatest lie [Genesis 3].
2. God said, "The fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and
fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars; their part shall be in the
lake that burns with fire and brimstone; which IS THE SECOND DEATH"
[Revelation 20:8]. Universalist says, "Not so God, all will be saved. None will die
the second death, for there cannot be a real second death."
3. No broad way "that leads to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby"
[Matthew 7:13].
4. NO DEATH. Whatever you think death is, whether death is death, or death is just
a separation from God, no one will be dead; no one will be separated from God.
Death could not be. The wages of sin could not be death [Romans 6:23]. “The
wages of sin is death” must be changed to some "kind of 'attitude adjustments'
necessary for the unbelievers according to their works," which will last for an
"age"; but the wages of sin cannot be a real death that will be forever. While this
attitude adjustment is going on, they must be very much alive, just as alive as they
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will be when it is over; IF THE WAGES OF SIN IS NOT DEATH, DOES SIN
HAVE NO WAGES?
5. “But he that obeys not the Son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE” [John 3:36] must be
changed to, “But he that obeys not the Son SHALL SEE ETERNAL LIFE.”
6. They use "all made alive" to teach all the lost will be raised with immortality.
When they make "all made alive" to be all will be given eternal life at the second
coming of Christ, there cannot be a judgment or a second death. All will be saved.
No need of a judgment day to judge some good and some bad, it is made to be
useless for both those who believe in this lifetime and those who do not believe
will be the same, all will be saved. They over look the fact that THE "ALL"
PAUL IS SPEAKING OF ARE ALL THE SAVED. ALL saints who are asleep in
Christ, and ALL saints who will be living at His coming. Nothing is said in that
passage about ALL the ones who are not in Christ; they will be raised to
judgment, not life at the resurrection; they are not NOW IN CHRIST, and they
never will have the "life" Christ gives to those who obey Him. Their names are
not in the book of life. "For we are a sweet savor of Christ unto God, in them that
are saved, and in them that perish: to the one a savor from death unto death; to
the other a savor from life unto life" [2 Corinthians 2:15-16]. Christ will raise
them from the dead, but only to be judged and return to the dead "from death unto
death"; and there will never be another resurrection.
7. Makes parables of Christ not true. They do not teach anything and, therefore, are
useless. THERE WILL BE NO TARES. Christ said, "I will say to the reapers,
Gather up first the tares, and bind them into bundles to burn them; but gather the
wheat into my barn" [Matthew 13:30]. Christ was wrong. The tares will not be
gathered out of the kingdom and burned at the end of the age (aion-age, not
world). The tares will not be turned into wheat and gathered into the kingdom, for
they will be burned as Christ said they would be "at the end of the age." NO BAD
FISH. All the bad little fishes will be turned too good little fishes. There will be
no bad little fishes to burn.
8. "I tell you Nay: but, except you repent, you shall all in like manner perish" [Luke
13:5]. Universalist says not so Jesus, all will be saved; no one will perish. It can
be asked of them as they ask, "Did Christ not know what He was saying; why
don't you believe it?" Even they cannot deny that Christ said, “Except you repent,
you shall all likewise perish.” Why do they not believe Him? How do they
change “perish” into “you shall all likewise be saved even if you do not repent”?
9. "Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of
Heaven; but he that does the will of my Father who is in Heaven. Many will say to
me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by your name, and by your name
cast out demons, and by your name do many mighty works? And then will I
profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity"
[Matthew 7:21-23]. How could Christ have been so wrong? How could He not
know that the Universalist says ALL will enter into the kingdom of Heaven? Why
would Christ be telling them in the Judgment Day after the resurrection that not
all will enter into the kingdom of Heaven?
o UNIVERSALIST: ALL will enter into the kingdom of Heaven.
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o CHRIST: Not ALL will enter into the kingdom of Heaven [Matthew 7:21-
23]. Why do they not believe Him?
10. They must change the words of Christ. "He that believes and is baptized shall be
saved; but he that believes not shall be condemned" must be changed to, "He that
believes and he that believes not shall both be saved." Why do they not believe
Christ? Why do they make, “Shall be saved,” and, “Shall be condemned” both
mean, “Shall be saved”?
11. Makes being a Christian and living for Christ be no better than not being a
Christian. All are going to end up being saved. Makes taking the Gospel to the
lost a waste of time. They are all going to be saved anyway, and those who do not
hear the Gospel may spend less time in the age lasting Hell and have less torment
than will those who hear and reject the Gospel; therefore, taking the Gospel to
them may do more harm to most than it will do good. Because most will not
believe the Gospel and will reject Christ, most will be made to suffer longer in the
"age lasting attitude adjustment" than they would if the Gospel were not taken to
them.
Will Jesus save everyone? Gary Amorality in an E mail to me June 15,1999, said,
"You've taken a big step out of Hell, but you still leave Jesus as a sinner. He didn't accomplish what He
came to do...save the world. If He fails in His mission, He can't be the Messiah."
1. God give His Son to save "whosoever believeth on Him." [John 3:16], but they
must believe in their lifetime, and many do not. "Without faith it is impossible to
be well-pleasing unto God" [Hebrews 11:6]. God will not raise them and save
everyone after He torments them for an age. He will not take away their freewill
and make them believe.
2. Paul says they who practice the works of the flesh SHALL NOT inherit the
kingdom of God [Galatians 5:16-24]. Universalist says Paul was wrong, they who
practice the works of the flesh shall inherit the kingdom of God after they spend
some time in some kind of torment having an "attitude adjustments."
3. Christ said, "He that obeys not the son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE," [John 3:36].
Universalist says they will see life. How do they think those who shall not see
life, and shall not inherit the kingdom of God, will have everlasting life in the
kingdom they shall not inherit [Matthew 7:21-23]?
HOW DOES UNIVERSALIST THINK JESUS IS A SINNER? Gary Amorality said,
"But you still leave Jesus as a sinner." Jesus had no sins of His own and even if He saved no
one, not one person, He had no sins, and not giving eternal life to those who do not
believe in Him does not make Him a sinner as Gary Amorality said it would.
UNIVERSALIST says God is a God of love, and He will not kill any; all will be
saved. They overlook the fact that He is also a just God, and sin must be paid for with
death [Romans 6:23]. The death of the sinner is just if it be death in this life or is the
second death at the judgment for ALL who has not had their sins washed away by the
blood of Christ; for ALL have sinned, and therefore, it is just for them to receive the
wages of their sins. If they have not had their sins washed away by the blood of Christ,
raised with Christ in baptism, the sinner will die. Death is sure and just for them.
Throughout the Old Testament, God destroyed those who rejected Him, as in the flood,
or ordered the destruction as with the Amalekites. He never tormented His enemies. He
destroyed them; their life ended. Death is the way God dealt with His enemies then, and
438
the way He will deal with them at the judgment. He will destroy them with death, the
second death, not torment them forever or for an age.
Universalist may think
IN CHRIST...ALL A-L-L ALL shall be made ALIVE! Then each of the ALL in his own order" (from one of their
web pages, "CAN THIS BE TRUE?"). They ask questions like: God will have all to be saved [1
Timothy 2:4]; can His will be thwarted? Jesus came to save all [John 12:47]; will He
succeed? Jesus is the savior of the world (1 John 4:14); why don't you believe it? And
many more like these. Their thinking seems to be that Christ came to save ALL; and if
He does not do it in this lifetime, then He must save all who are not saved in this lifetime
after the resurrection. This would be great if it was true, but nothing is said about anyone
being saved after his or her death. They know that most do not believe in Christ in this
lifetime, therefore, they MUST make ALL believe at some time after death. What will
happen after death? Christ says "For the hour comes, in which ALL that are in the tombs
shall hear his voice, and come forth: they that have done good, unto the resurrection of
LIFE; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of JUDGMENT" [John 5:28-
29]. There is nothing said about anyone being saved after death. The lost are raised to
judgment, not to eternal life. "NOW is the acceptable time: behold, NOW is the day of
salvation" [2 Corinthians 6:2]. God loves ALL, and Christ died for ALL, but ALL will
not come to Him. He made a person where he or she could choose to or choose not to.
Universalist teaching is that God will show His love to ALL in a way that ALL, even
Satan, will love Him. To so overpower the freewill of a person is the same as making
them love Him when they could not help it. It would be the same thing as taking their
freewill away. This "attitude adjustments" must be strong enough to overpower the most
evil; therefore, they are made to believe even against their will. They make up both this
"attitude adjustments" and the place where it takes place because they must have them if
ALL are to be saved. They are not in the Bible.
UNIVERSALIST TEACHING OF ALL WILL BE SAVED makes much of the
Bible be foolishness, vain babbling, meaningless, or just an out right lie. It makes:
1. Satan's greatest lie would be no lie, but is the truth. If all will be saved, no one
will die. Satan told the truth; but when God said they would die, He is the one
who told the greatest lie [Genesis 3].
2. God said, "The fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and
fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars; their part shall be in the
lake that burns with fire and brimstone; which IS THE SECOND DEATH"
[Revelation 20:8]. Universalist says, "Not so God, all will be saved. None will die
the second death, for there cannot be a real second death."
3. No broad way "that leads to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby"
[Matthew 7:13].
4. NO DEATH. Whatever you think death is, whether death is death, or death is just
a separation from God, no one will be dead; no one will be separated from God.
Death could not be. The wages of sin could not be death [Romans 6:23]. “The
wages of sin is death” must be changed to some "kind of 'attitude adjustments'
necessary for the unbelievers according to their works," which will last for an
"age"; but the wages of sin cannot be a real death that will be forever. While this
attitude adjustment is going on, they must be very much alive, just as alive as they
436
will be when it is over; IF THE WAGES OF SIN IS NOT DEATH, DOES SIN
HAVE NO WAGES?
5. “But he that obeys not the Son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE” [John 3:36] must be
changed to, “But he that obeys not the Son SHALL SEE ETERNAL LIFE.”
6. They use "all made alive" to teach all the lost will be raised with immortality.
When they make "all made alive" to be all will be given eternal life at the second
coming of Christ, there cannot be a judgment or a second death. All will be saved.
No need of a judgment day to judge some good and some bad, it is made to be
useless for both those who believe in this lifetime and those who do not believe
will be the same, all will be saved. They over look the fact that THE "ALL"
PAUL IS SPEAKING OF ARE ALL THE SAVED. ALL saints who are asleep in
Christ, and ALL saints who will be living at His coming. Nothing is said in that
passage about ALL the ones who are not in Christ; they will be raised to
judgment, not life at the resurrection; they are not NOW IN CHRIST, and they
never will have the "life" Christ gives to those who obey Him. Their names are
not in the book of life. "For we are a sweet savor of Christ unto God, in them that
are saved, and in them that perish: to the one a savor from death unto death; to
the other a savor from life unto life" [2 Corinthians 2:15-16]. Christ will raise
them from the dead, but only to be judged and return to the dead "from death unto
death"; and there will never be another resurrection.
7. Makes parables of Christ not true. They do not teach anything and, therefore, are
useless. THERE WILL BE NO TARES. Christ said, "I will say to the reapers,
Gather up first the tares, and bind them into bundles to burn them; but gather the
wheat into my barn" [Matthew 13:30]. Christ was wrong. The tares will not be
gathered out of the kingdom and burned at the end of the age (aion-age, not
world). The tares will not be turned into wheat and gathered into the kingdom, for
they will be burned as Christ said they would be "at the end of the age." NO BAD
FISH. All the bad little fishes will be turned too good little fishes. There will be
no bad little fishes to burn.
8. "I tell you Nay: but, except you repent, you shall all in like manner perish" [Luke
13:5]. Universalist says not so Jesus, all will be saved; no one will perish. It can
be asked of them as they ask, "Did Christ not know what He was saying; why
don't you believe it?" Even they cannot deny that Christ said, “Except you repent,
you shall all likewise perish.” Why do they not believe Him? How do they
change “perish” into “you shall all likewise be saved even if you do not repent”?
9. "Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of
Heaven; but he that does the will of my Father who is in Heaven. Many will say to
me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by your name, and by your name
cast out demons, and by your name do many mighty works? And then will I
profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity"
[Matthew 7:21-23]. How could Christ have been so wrong? How could He not
know that the Universalist says ALL will enter into the kingdom of Heaven? Why
would Christ be telling them in the Judgment Day after the resurrection that not
all will enter into the kingdom of Heaven?
o UNIVERSALIST: ALL will enter into the kingdom of Heaven.
437
o CHRIST: Not ALL will enter into the kingdom of Heaven [Matthew 7:21-
23]. Why do they not believe Him?
10. They must change the words of Christ. "He that believes and is baptized shall be
saved; but he that believes not shall be condemned" must be changed to, "He that
believes and he that believes not shall both be saved." Why do they not believe
Christ? Why do they make, “Shall be saved,” and, “Shall be condemned” both
mean, “Shall be saved”?
11. Makes being a Christian and living for Christ be no better than not being a
Christian. All are going to end up being saved. Makes taking the Gospel to the
lost a waste of time. They are all going to be saved anyway, and those who do not
hear the Gospel may spend less time in the age lasting Hell and have less torment
than will those who hear and reject the Gospel; therefore, taking the Gospel to
them may do more harm to most than it will do good. Because most will not
believe the Gospel and will reject Christ, most will be made to suffer longer in the
"age lasting attitude adjustment" than they would if the Gospel were not taken to
them.
Will Jesus save everyone? Gary Amorality in an E mail to me June 15,1999, said,
"You've taken a big step out of Hell, but you still leave Jesus as a sinner. He didn't accomplish what He
came to do...save the world. If He fails in His mission, He can't be the Messiah."
1. God give His Son to save "whosoever believeth on Him." [John 3:16], but they
must believe in their lifetime, and many do not. "Without faith it is impossible to
be well-pleasing unto God" [Hebrews 11:6]. God will not raise them and save
everyone after He torments them for an age. He will not take away their freewill
and make them believe.
2. Paul says they who practice the works of the flesh SHALL NOT inherit the
kingdom of God [Galatians 5:16-24]. Universalist says Paul was wrong, they who
practice the works of the flesh shall inherit the kingdom of God after they spend
some time in some kind of torment having an "attitude adjustments."
3. Christ said, "He that obeys not the son SHALL NOT SEE LIFE," [John 3:36].
Universalist says they will see life. How do they think those who shall not see
life, and shall not inherit the kingdom of God, will have everlasting life in the
kingdom they shall not inherit [Matthew 7:21-23]?
HOW DOES UNIVERSALIST THINK JESUS IS A SINNER? Gary Amorality said,
"But you still leave Jesus as a sinner." Jesus had no sins of His own and even if He saved no
one, not one person, He had no sins, and not giving eternal life to those who do not
believe in Him does not make Him a sinner as Gary Amorality said it would.
UNIVERSALIST says God is a God of love, and He will not kill any; all will be
saved. They overlook the fact that He is also a just God, and sin must be paid for with
death [Romans 6:23]. The death of the sinner is just if it be death in this life or is the
second death at the judgment for ALL who has not had their sins washed away by the
blood of Christ; for ALL have sinned, and therefore, it is just for them to receive the
wages of their sins. If they have not had their sins washed away by the blood of Christ,
raised with Christ in baptism, the sinner will die. Death is sure and just for them.
Throughout the Old Testament, God destroyed those who rejected Him, as in the flood,
or ordered the destruction as with the Amalekites. He never tormented His enemies. He
destroyed them; their life ended. Death is the way God dealt with His enemies then, and
438
the way He will deal with them at the judgment. He will destroy them with death, the
second death, not torment them forever or for an age.
Universalist may think
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